Porting

Discussion in 'Tech Discussion' started by lokey, January 3, 2008.

  1. lokey

    lokey New Member

    I'm in the process of getting my 701 engine rebuilt and noticed the sleeve/cylinder ports are mismatched really bad, is there anyone in NZ with experience in port matching these cylinders and maybe some performance porting as well?
  2. Rick XP

    Rick XP Member

    Contact Roger Parker. He has a lot of experience with this kind of stuff.

    Roger parker

    021739548
  3. lokey

    lokey New Member

    thanks Rick, will do
    Just curious, is it normal for stock ports to be this badly matched?
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  4. Tim

    Tim Member

    sure are, they have the worst mismatch out of any stock boat. Check out the great sport porting thread on PWC today lots of info there on porting. MR Parker would be the man to speak to. You get more of a HP gain buy making the exaust port bigger than tiding up the Transfers.
  5. lokey

    lokey New Member

  6. X2Kid

    X2Kid Member

    Looks like the quality control officer at Yamaha was off taking a dump when your cylinder went by!
  7. waxhead

    waxhead Member

    thats normal for the 61x cylinder
    you can just align the porting if you like
    but the issue with the 61x is the lack pof port time area
    so there is alot to be gained by doing more than just cleaning them up

    the sport port is fine but its very mild
  8. Rumble

    Rumble Member

    Since I'm waiting on parts, decided to give cylinder porting a go... My cases are already ported or I would have tried that too.

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    Photos are in the rough stage just to show what was taken off. Have a bit of filing and sanding to do tomorrow, but took about 3-4 hours using a rotary tool with a HSS cutter I found at work.. The ports are to a RaceLogic template.

    Next time I will give a bit more 'tidy up' clearance when doing the rough cut, but came up pretty mint compared to the templates. I'm pretty keen to see if there is any difference, but thinking of raising the compression a little while I'm at it...
  9. waxhead

    waxhead Member

    Looks good
    there is a few extra thinsg you can do
    You see the bridge between the two transfer ports
    you can drop that down up to 13mm as well as the sleeve
    this allows the sleeve to flow more while the piston is still coming down
  10. waxhead

    waxhead Member

    Exhaust port looks nice as well

    Well done
    What timing do you have on it
  11. Rumble

    Rumble Member

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    Are you talking about the bridge between the two seperate transfer ports on the different cylinders or do you mean the small bridge seperating the two transfers?

    I didn't clean up the transfer ports as I don't have a 90 deg,

    The sleeve has already been dropped a lot, not sure how much, I guess about 10mm

    Timing... The stator is on the stock mark and I'm running a MSD Enhancer. What do you recommend for that? Not sure if I want to advance even a few degrees if I go higher compression too.. Ports are stock height (pretty much)
  12. waxhead

    waxhead Member

    the blue
    and drop the sleeve to measure as well
    the transfers are very important you NEED to do them
    the weak area in a 61x is the transfer ports
  13. Rumble

    Rumble Member

    I will try to get in there somehow..

    That is good to know but my understanding is that will result in mainly top-end gains - possibly with some loss of bottom end.. I am primarily surf riding and only shortened the sleeve on the intake side in the first place because of my lack of mid and top with my current setup.. Also don't really want piston wear / ring wear to be any more than it currently is!!
  14. waxhead

    waxhead Member

    No it will result in gains every where if you do it right
  15. Rumble

    Rumble Member

    I'm really going to have to upgrade my Mikuni 46 now..

    Any pics of something I can copy? or you just go straight across? The ones I have seen are more of a loop...
  16. Rumble

    Rumble Member

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    Left a bit of a loop in it. About 8mm off at the back, 6 mm off front.. Again these are the rough ones
  17. waxhead

    waxhead Member

    thats the idae
    and cut your sleeve down to help it breathe as well
    i cut the sides of the sleeve down 13 as well
  18. Rumble

    Rumble Member

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    All done now, almost ended catastrophically when the honing tool got caught in the newly widened exhaust ports... luckily it only damaged the tool. I think I'll take that as a sign to stop for the day!

    Exhaust, intake skirt shortened & notched, sleeve shortened ~8mm and managed to get to a couple of the transfer ports.
  19. waxhead

    waxhead Member

    looking good now
    Are you going to do the cases as well
  20. Rumble

    Rumble Member

    Cases are already epoxy'd and opened up a bit...